Something about vitiligo research and Michael Jackson. Please continue?
Michael Jackson have helped thousands of Childre, giving tons of money. In an interview about (not with) Michael Jackson, talk about their problem of vitiligo. It was right after he announced in 1992 or 1993 Oprah interview suffering of vitiligo. In the interview on him and vitiligo, a group of vitiligo victims that help support each other asked through the camera perhaps Michael could donate some money to study this disease and to prevent in the future and maybe find a cure. Michael has all given money to this group? If he did (by the way), could be because they had not seen this interview. I mean, in the interview, there were two guys (journalists and part of the media has picked Michael for years) to see such a hearing would not be in your mind. And, it's given millions of children and charity and has his own foundation to help those in need, so I would say that it has given much. He can not do everything. Please no ugly comments about him.
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I thought there would be a llamams walking around the living room and maybe some – uh – chimpanzees jumping. Not get me wrong, I was not totally wrong. There are plenty of amazing areas 2700 acres on this ranch, you'll see in the next 90 minutes. But where Michael Jackson is eaten, and where he sleeps and where you live is simply a beautiful home. There is a library full of classic leather here and works of art linked to the walls, not at all what we thought we would find. Before I met the man who lives here, is important knowing where it came, its history is nothing short of amazing. (Video clip of Michael and his family as he grew up) Part I of Oprah: Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Jackson! (Michael enters the lounge) Oprah: How are you nervous? Michael: Like what? Oprah: How nervous are you now? Michael: I'm not nervous at all, really. Oprah: You really are not? Michael: No, I never get nervous. Oprah: Not even for your first interview and who lives around the world? I was a little nervous, but if you are not and that's great because if you are nervous do not panic. Just wanted to let the world know that when we agreed to do this interview you said you would be willing to talk to me about everything. Michael: That's true. Oprah: Very true. I saw that on the bottom must see video from the early years. Did that bring back memories for you? Michael: It made me laugh because I have not seen the images of a much time. Does bring back memories? Yeah, me and my siblings that I love dearly and a wonderful moment for me. Oprah: I saw you laugh when you saw yourself singing "Baby, Baby, Baby ". Michael: Yes, I think James Brown is a genius, you know, when the famous flames, incredible. I used to watch it on TV and I get angry at the camera and the man because whenever he would really start dancing in the foreground so I could not see his feet. I shout "show him, show him" to see and learn. Oprah: So he was a big mentor for you? Michael: Great, great. Oprah: Who else was? Michael: Jackie Wilson, love as an artist, and music of course, Motown. The Bee Gees, who are brilliant, i love good music. Oprah: When I see those tapes of you, and heaven knows, putting this together I think I've seen every piece of video made by you, and watching those tapes when, especially in the younger years, you really seem to come alive on stage. If you like off stage happy as you seem to be on stage? Michael: Well, on stage for me was home. I was more comfortable on stage but once I got off stage, I was like, really sad. Oprah: Really? Michael: Yes Oprah: And from the beginning sad, sad and began to function, why Why so sad? Michael: Lonely, sad, having to cope with the popularity and all that. There were times we had great times with my brothers, pillow fights and things, but was always used to mourn the solitude. Oprah: From what age? Michael: Oh, very little, eight, nine. Oprah: When everything was like? Michael: Yes Oprah: So it was not what it seemed to be with the rest of the world, all of us … I remember it was a black boy, who wanted to marry with Jackie Jackson, his brother, what it means for us we thought this was the most wonderful thing in the world, would not have wanted that life? Michael: "It was great, there is much of shock at being famous. I mean traveling the world, meet people, go places you, it's great. But then there's the other side, I'm not complaining. There are a lot of trial and there to put a lot of his time, give much of himself. Oprah: Do you feel …. I spoke with Suzanne de Passe the other day, and worked with Suzanne de Passe at Motown, and you really prepared everything and found costumes for the Ed Sullivan Show. We talked about whether or not actually lost, right? Michael: Well, especially now I realize – and then – I would do my studies was three hours with a tutor and right after that I would go into the studio and record, and I would burn for hours and hours until is time to go to sleep. And I remember going to the studio and there was a park across the street and I saw all the children playing and I mourn because I would sad that would have to work instead. Oprah: I want to go to this and show you some pictures of you as a child. Michael: OK. (Video footage of young Michael) Oprah: Suzanne said it was a very high price, I know how big a price that was losing a child or having this kind of life? Michael: Well, it is to do things others children the opportunity to do, having friends and slumber parties and friends. There was nothing like that for me. I do not have friends when I was little. My brothers were my friends. Oprah: Was there ever a place where – because you know that children – because I remember myself talking and playing with my dolls – was there … and I think every child needs a place to escape to a world of the child, the imagination of a child, was there ever a time you could do? Michael: No. And I think that because I did not have then compensate for that. People wonder why I always have children around, because I think the thing I never had through them, you know Disneyland, amusement parks, arcade games. I love all those things because when I was little it was always work, work, work from one concert to another. If there was a concert that was the recording studio, if not to be TV shows or photo session. There was always something to do. Oprah: Did you feel – Smokey Robinson said this about you, and you have so many other people who were like an old soul in a small body. Michael: I remember hearing that all the time when I was little. They used to call 45 dwarf wherever he went. I just heard you use and wherever I went … just like when some people said when you were little and started singing, you know they were so good? And I say that I never thought about it, I just did and it came out. Never really thought about it. Oprah: So here you are, Michael Jackson, have had successes, which have been highly successful – four hits in a row – and you were crying because he could not be like other children. Michael: Well, I loved show business and I still love the world of entertainment, but then sometimes you just want to play and have a good time and the part that made me sad. I rememeber once they were preparing to go to South America and it was full and the car ready to go out and I hid and I was crying because I did not want to go, wanted to play. I did not want to go. Oprah: Are you jealous of his brothers when he started to get all the attention? Michael: Not to my knowledge, no. Oprah: I never felt a sense jealousy? Michael: Oh, let me think, no. No, I think they were always happy for me that I could do certain things, but I've never felt jealousy between them. Oprah: Do you think you are jealous of you now? Michael: I do not. I do not think so, not Oprah.: No. What is your relationship with your family? Are you close yet? Michael: I love my family very much. I wish I could see a little more often than me. But we understand because we are a family of show business and all work. Days we the family when we all met, we take a person's house, it might be Jermaine house or Marlon or Tito's house and all the world will gather in fellowship and love each other and talk and catch up on who is doing what and Oprah …: Not particularly bothered by LaToya and LaToya's book and the things that LaToya has said about the family? Michael: Well, I have not read the book of LaToya. I just know I love my sister dearly, I love and LaToya Forever and ever I see as happiness, love that LaToya I remember growing gender. So I could not answer in full. Oprah: Do you think that some of the things she's been saying are true? Michael: I could not meet Oprah, really I have not read the book. That's the truth. Oprah: Well, let's go back to when you were young and feeling of all this, well, I guess it a feeling of anguish, I suppose, so there was nobody for you to play with his brothers othere. Never had slumber parties? Michael: Never. Oprah: So I wonder why you, as this cute little boy that everyone adopted and all who come to you that are pulling your cheeks and how cute, how will the adolescence through that stage where everything is akward duck, and I wonder when it started to go through adolescence having been the child superstar, that was a moment particularly difficult for you? Michael: Very, very, very difficult, yes. Because I think every child star suffers in this period because you are not cute and charming child has been. You start to grow, and they want to keep forever small. Oprah: Who are they? Michael: The Public. And um, nature takes its course. Oprah: It does. Michael: Yeah, and I had pimples so badly that I used to be so timid. I do not use to look at myself. I hide my face in the dark did not want to look in the mirror and my father teased me and I hated him and cried every day. Oprah: Your father joked about his pimples? Michael: Yes, and I said that I am ugly. Oprah: Your father said that? Michael: Yes I would. Sorry Jose. Oprah: What is your relationship like with him? Michael: I love my father But I do not know. Oprah: Are you angry with him for doing it? Think that's a cruel reality. Michael: Am I angry with him? Oprah: Because adolescence is difficult enough without a father who says you are ugly. Michael: Am I angry with him? Sometimes I get angry. I did not know how he would know. My mother is wonderful. For me she is perfection. I just wish I could understand my father. Oprah: And so let's talk about those teenage years. Is it when you began to enter yourself? Because it is obvious that I have spoken to the world for 14 years. So I went into the house, became a recluse. Was it to protected? Michael: I felt that it was not important for me to say, and those who were sad, sad years for me. Oprah: Why so sad? Because on stage they were doing, he was receiving his Grammy. Why so sad? Michael Oh, there are a lot of sadness about my past and adolescence, from my father and all those things. Oprah: So tease you, tease you. Michael Yes Oprah: Did he ever … beat you? Michael: Yes Oprah: And why did you hit? Michael: I saw, I wanted to, I guess … I do not know if I was their golden child or whatever, but was very strict, very hard, very severe. Just a look that scares you. Oprah: What were you afraid of him? Michael: Very. Like, there have been times when it had come to see me sick, I'd start to regurgitate. Oprah: As a child or adult? Michael: Both. Never heard say this. Sorry, please do not be mad at me. Oprah: Well I mean, I guess everyone has to take responsibility for what they have done in life. And his father is one of those people who also have to take responsibility. Miguel: But I love him. Oprah: Yes, I understand this. Michael: And I'm forgiving. Oprah: But can you really forgive? Michael: We forgive you. There is so much garbage and trash that is written about me is so false, they are outright lies, and those are some things I wanted to talk. Press stories has invented a lot … God … horrible, horrible … that made me understand more often you hear a lie, that is, begin to believe. (Commercial break) Oprah: Um, we talked about all the rumors to rest shortly before and there were so many. First, I've been in this house is preparing for this and I have been all the house upstairs when I was not looking, looking to the oxygen chamber, and I can not find an oxygen tent anywhere in the house. Michael: That, that story is so crazy, I mean that is one of those things sensational, it is completely invented. Oprah: (photo by Michael in an oxygen chamber is shown on camera) Well, you're into something there is a photo of yourself, where does that? How did you start? Michael: That's … I did a commercial for Pepsi and burned me was very bad and we chose a million dollars and I gave all the money … as we bulit this place called the Centre for Burns and Michael Jackson is a piece of technology used for burn victims, right. So I'm looking at the piece of technology and decide to go inside and just around the hammer, someone takes a picture when faced with a picture of the person processing the image says: "Oh Michael Jackson." He made a copy and these images were all over the world with this lie attributes. It is a complete lie, why people buy these papers? It is not true I'm here to say. You know, not to judge a person, not judge, unless have talked to them one by one. I do not care what the story is, do not judge, because it is a lie. Oprah: You're right and that history, it was like it had legs. Michael: It's crazy. Why would sleep in a camera? (Laughs) Oprah: The rumor was that they were sleeping in the chamber did not want to grow old. Michael: That is stupid. It is completely formed. I am ashamed. I'm willing to forgive the press, or forgive anyone, I was taught to love and forgive, that I have in my heart but please do not believe these, horrible crazy things. Oprah: Did you buy the Elephant Man bones? Was trying to get by … Michael: No. That's another stupid story. I love the story of the elephant man, reminds me a lot, and I could relate to him, made me mourn because I saw in the story, but I never asked for the … where I will put some bones? Michael …: …. and why would I want some bones? Oprah: I do not know. So where does that story come from? Michael: Someone makes up, and everybody believes it. If you hear a lie often enough, you start to believe it. Oprah: Yes, and people make money selling tabloids. Michael: Yes, Oprah: Okay. Only recently there was a story, and I know that one of his lawyers held a press conference, there was a story about you wanting have a white child living in San in a Pepsi commercial. Michael: That is so stupid. That's the most ridiculous story I've heard horrible. It's crazy. Why, number one, is my face as a child in the commercial, when I was little, why would I want a white child to play with me? I'm black American, I am proud of my career. I am proud of who I am. I have a lot of pride and dignity. That's like wanting to play an oriental person as a child. Does that make sense? Oprah: Well, then we will be what is most discussed about you, that is, the color of his skin … is obviously different from when you were younger, and I believe that has caused a lot of speculation and controversy as to what they have done or are doing, are you bleaching your skin, and skin is getting lighter because you do not like being black? Michael: Number one, as far as I know no such thing as discoloration of the skin. I've never seen, I do not know what it is. Oprah: Well they used to have the products, I remember growing up always hearing "always use bleach and glow, but you have to have about 300,000 gallons. Michael: Well, number one, this is the situation. I have a skin disorder that destroys the pigmentation of the skin, is something that I can not help, okay? But when people make up stories that I will not be what I am hurting. Oprah: That's … Michael: It's a problem for me I can not control … but what with all the millions of people sitting in the sun to be darker, to be different than they are. Nobody says anything about that. Oprah: So when did this? When there was … when the color of his skin start to change? Michael: Oh boy, I do not …. sometime after Thriller, about Off The Wall, Thriller, at some time around then. Oprah: But what do you think? Michael: It's in my family, my father said he is on his side. I can not control, I do not understand. I mean makes me very sad. I do not want to get into my medical history, since it is private, but this is the situation here. Oprah: So okay just want to clarify this, you not taking anything to change the color of their skin? Michael: Oh, God, we try to control and make-up because it evens out spots on my skin. I have to balance my skin. But you know what's funny, why is it so important? That's not important to me. I'ma big fan of art. I love Michael, if I had the opportunity talk to him or read about it, I want to know what inspired him to become who he is, the anatomy of his art, not about who came up with …. what is last night bad …. I mean that is what is important to me. Oprah: How much plastic surgery have you had? Michael: Very, very little. I mean you can count on my two fingers. "I mean we say this, if you want to know about these things, all the nosy people in the world, read my book Moonwalk, is in my book. You know, we say thus, if all the people in Hollywood who have had plastic surgery, if you went on vacation, there would be one person left in the city. Oprah: Um, I think could be right. Michael: I think I am right. It would be empty. Oprah: Did you start to make plastic surgery because of the years of adolescence, because he did not like the way they looked? Michael: No, not really. Only two. Really, my book, no big deal. Oprah: You do not want to tell me what is it? You had your nose, of course … Michael: Yes, but so did a bunch of people I know. Oprah: And so when you hear all these things about you and not have been more … Michael: I've never had my cheekbones fact, had never done before my eyes, my lips had done and all that, you only have to go too away … Oprah: Are you satisfied with the way … Michael: I'm never satisfied with anything, I'm a perfectionist, is part of who I am. Oprah: And so when you look in the mirror and see the image that looks back on days there when I say a little like this, or I like the way my hair … Michael: No, I nev … Oprah: …. either I'm a bit nice today … Michael: … (Laughs) … cute today …. no, I'm never satisfied with myself. No, I do not try to look in the mirror. Oprah: I have to ask this, many mothers in my audience what I said please, I ask this question. Why grab your crotch? Michael: (giggels) Why I grab my crotch? Oprah: You have a thing going on there crotch. Michael: I think it happens subliminally. When you're dancing, you know, are just interpret the music and the sounds and the accompaniment. If there is a driving base, if there is a cello, if there is a chain, it becomes the excitement of what the sound is. So if I'm making a move and go "Bam" and grabs me is … is the music that compels me to do so. Not that I'm saying that I am dying beyond grasp below and is not a great place, not thinking about it, it just happens. Sometimes I look back at the footage and I go … and I go, "Did I do that?" So I'm a slave to the rhythm out ,…( smoke detectors in the house) … yes, fine. (Commercial break – some of the major achievements of Michael shown on tape) Oprah: When you have broken all records, when you have the number on the album have been sold, when it has broken every record that must be broken, when it becomes an icon an industry is always pressure to do something bigger better? Michael: Oh gee, and that is something, well, it makes it harder each time to follow up. Try to be as original as it can be without thinking about the statistics, only you will form the soul and heart. Oprah: And when you think that what they do, you go, you meditate, think about it now that I'm going to make the Superbowl. Michael: Nooo …. I create just in my heart, really. Oprah: Liz Taylor said he was the king of pop, rock and soul. Where this notion that self-proclaimed king of pop come from? Michael: Well, I do not proclaim myself to be anything, I'm happy to be alive I'm happy to be who I am. The king of pop said for the first time by Elizabeth Taylor in a sample of the award. (The clip of Elizabeth saying this is shown) Oprah: And there is where it all started? Michael: Yeah … and fans … all stages we've played in bringing banners saying the king of pop and sang outside my hotel king of … so it became something that just happened around the world. Oprah: Do you go out, do you date? Michael: Yes Oprah: Who do now? Michael: Well now is Brooke Shields. Well, try not to be everywhere, go everywhere, it is especially at home. Will come, I will go to your houes, because I like to go out in public. Oprah: Have you ever been in love? Michael Yes Oprah With Brooke Shields? Michael: Yeah, and another girl. Oprah: And another girl? Let me ask you this, and it is shameful for me to ask this, but I'll ask anyway, are you a virgin? Michael: Uhhh …. How can you ask that question? Oprah: I just want to know. Michael: I am a gentleman. Oprah: You are a gentleman? Michael: I am a gentleman. Oprah: I interpret that as meaning you believe that a woman is a lady and so … Michael: That is something that is private. I mean, not to talk openly. You can call me old fashioned if you like, but, you know, I mean that is very personal. Oprah: So you are not going to answer? Michael: I'm embarrassed. Oprah: Well we would like to know whether there is a possibility that you will one day marry and have children? Michael: I feel like my life is incomplete without it because I love family life do. I love children and I love the whole thing. And I love, is one of my dreams but could not because I'm married now, I'm married to my music and not have to be that proximity to make the kind of work I want to do and … Oprah: What type of woman who does … in the video we will see later that the world premiere the video …. there is a line where there is talk that goes, and what kind of Women do that to you? Michael: (singing) "Quench my desire '… Well Brooke, I have always wanted, and when I was little I used to stay with Diana Ross, me and my brothers stayed with her for years and have never said, but I was always in love with her. Oprah: Really? Michael: Yes Oprah: I also heard, This was another of those rumors, which had proposed to Elizabeth Taylor at some point. Michael: Elizabeth Taylor is gorgeous, beautiful, and still is today, I'm crazy for her. Oprah: Yes, but to propose marriage? Michael: I like to have. Oprah: Well, Elizabeth Taylor is here. Liz? Can we take Liz out now? Liz had said it wanted to be here and hold your hand through this. You do not look like you need your hand. Elizabeth Taylor! Michael: Hello Elizabeth. Oprah: Hello. Elizabeth: Hi. Oprah: Have a seat. Elizabeth: Thank you. Oprah: Michael never propose? Elizabeth: No! And he never proposed. Oprah: I never did! What do you think is most misunderstood of Michael Jackson? Elizabeth: all the things you mentioned. He is the least weird man I ever knew. He is very intelligent, shrewd, intuitive, comprehensive, compassionate, generous – almost a foul himself. Oprah: Uh huh. Elizabeth: Uh, and he just, yeah, if you have any eccentricities is that is as larger than life and some people simply can not accept that either the face or understand. His talent on stage, that's why they call him the king of pop, rock, soul, music, enetertainment, whatever … Oprah: Yes Elizabeth … there is no one to approach him. Nobody can dance like that, write the lyrics and the music uh, make the kind of excitement that makes. Oprah: And why do you think they are all such good friends? What has caused this type of bonds? Because people try to make this rare. Elizabeth: Well, it is not. I mean, our childhoods are very similar, and we had from the outset in common. Um, I was a child star at nine had an abusive father, um, and that kind of us gathered in the beginning. Oprah: And what is going to ask Michael that question later, but what is most interested in the world to know about him? Elizabeth: What a wonderful, giving, caring, generous man he is, and how good it is. Oprah: And it's fun too. Elizabeth: Oh, He is outrageously funny. Oprah He can crack some jokes, I say to you. Elizabeth: Yes, but a good man. Oprah: When we return – Thanks for being with we also – Elizabeth: That's good. Oprah: Because I did not want to be on camera at first, but thank you very much. Coming next, Michael will give us not only a tour of his incredible amusement park and theater, but also a very special dance performance. For all those who say he is pretending The Moonwalk, with mirrors, we have some evidence to come in a minute. (Commercial break – when the cameras turn Oprah Michael is taking the cinema in a golf cart) Oprah: Now this is shocking to me that even unity. What we are doing all is that we come from Michael's house to this amazing amusement park, which is O around several hundred meters from the house. And this is incredible. Michael: Thank you. Oprah: And I want to know if you did this to you or did you do for all children to be entertained here? Michael: As for me and the children. (He helps the wagon Oprah) Every 3 weeks we – terminally ill children who come to uh – Oprah: The home? Michael: Yes, yes. Oprah: Make A Wish Foundation, Dream Street, Starlight, right? Michael: Every three weeks. And these are the sick children, children with cancer. I entertain them. Oprah: Uh-huh. Michael: So they come here for fun. Oprah: This is unbelievable. What I have to say is, this is, as I was talking with some children who were here, these are not just games grandmother here. These are some of the main attractions. Michael: (laughs) Oprah: I mean the Dragon Sea, the wheel of fortune, and there must be Zipper. Michael: The Wipeout. Oprah: Yes, the Wipeout and there are bumper cars here, really – Michael: Thank you. Well, out the child in everyone. I love rides and things like that and share with the children. Oprah: Were you able to as a child? Michael: Not really. Sometimes, sometimes, but not often enough. Oprah: But now you can at any time. Michael: Every day. It is right in my backyard. Oprah: What Often you really come here and do this? Michael: Whenever I'm here I leave and go to games. Oprah: Well, this part is one of you, we were talking before, the pain of growing up and not be able to experience all the things that children normally experience, and what is now fulfilling all the fantasies. Michael: For compensate each other. Oprah: Really? Michael: Yes, very true. Oprah: Do you think you can ever really recover yet? Do you feel the same? I I mean, I do not know. Michael: (laughs) It's more fun. Oprah: Really? Michael: I do not change the past, if I could. I'm having fun. Oprah: And here we are inside the theater. I had a sugar too many babies in that fighting candy. Michael: (laughs) Oprah: But the sweet is here for all children. Pinocchio is here, ET is here. Did you know – which is fascinating to me about you is that obviously, is the aura of the child like about you, and I see children with you and who likes to play with you is one of them. But a child does not HRT. Michael: (laughs) Oprah: A child does not put this together – this is really great. Michael: Well, thanks. Yo, I love to do things for the kids and try to imitate Jesus – I'm not saying I am Jesus, I'm not saying that. Oprah: Yes, we clear on that. Michael: Yes, I'm trying to imitate Jesus in the fact that he said it as children, to love their children, to be as pure as children and to feel so innocent and see the world through the eyes of wonder and magic total quality of all – and I love that. And we will have a hundred kids went bald, they all have cancer and are all running around … Oprah: Uh-huh. Michael: … and having fun and makes me mourn tears of happiness that I was able to do so them, you know? Oprah: Uh-huh. Michael: It makes me so happy inside. Oprah: Well, when I came here to, um, a few months ago to shoot an ad with the promoting today's event, one of the things that really impressed me – I hope you're getting shots of this. I do not know if you are, if all cameras are in us, but – oh there are other cameras – is that there are, within the walls built here – beds – beds for some of these sick children who come. And what I realized when I saw this is what you have to be a person who truly cares about children to incorporate it into their architecture. Michael: Yes, yes. We have children who come they are – intraveneously – they are very sick, bedridden … Oprah: You can not sit. Michael: Right. They can not sit, and these beds are hospital beds. You press a button that raises or drops and are able to see. We have a magic show, show current movies, no cartoons, all you know, everything that can escape to that world of magic that do not have the opportunity to experience the world was deprived of when I was little. Oprah: Now I ask this question. You know I believe everything that happens in life people for a reason. Do you think that he had not lost a lot of, uh, life and fun and fantasy of childhood that you would be so in touch today with children. Do you refer to them as you do? Michael: Probably me, but not both. That's why I would not change anything. Oprah: Really? Michael: Because I am happy things are and with my attention to young people and everything. Oprah: Are you really happy now, because it seemed so sad for long. Michael: (laughs) I was sad for years and years. But I'm happy, I'm getting there. Yes, I am very happy. Oprah: What makes you happy? Michael: Being able to give back, you know, and help other people. Oprah: Uh-huh. Michael: Heal The World Foundation of which I have formed, which assists children in healing the world. Heal We are doing what is, uh, We have three primary objectives: Immunization of children, tutoring older brothers, sisters great program, and education in drug abuse. Jimmy Carter has joined Heal us to Atlanta and we're going from state to state healing – you know we've been to Sarajevo, we did a lot of places. Oprah: I know, I I know, we have pictures of you all over the world that is with all these children. One of the things I was saying before we went to the break for the last time before the alarm went off in the house and all that … Michael: Yes Oprah: … is that, uh, we are talking about rumors. One of the strangest things I learned is that when you walk mole that is pretending. You have some mirrors somewhere in your socks. Michael: Oh, boy! Oprah: And is not real truth. Michael: No, that's not true. Oprah: How, first, you know what we have spent much time trying to dispel rumors, trying to get the truth I have not really had a chance to talk with you about how you conceived your music, how to conceive of the dance. Where did the moonwalk come? Michael: Well, the moonwalk came to these beautiful children, black children living in the ghettos, the slums, which are bright, they just have that natural talent for dancing. Any of these new – the man who runs – Any of these dances, they come to these dances, all he did was enhance the dance. Oprah: OK, I want to see you dance. Michael: Oh, God, no, no. Oprah: I want to see dance. I want to see dancing, live. Michael: No, no. I can show you a step or two. But, I'm a little rusty right now. Oprah: A little rusty? Michael goes on stage and the last few Dangerous steps) Michael: That's the moonwalk. Wait, you have to "stick" side. Oprah: You have to turn sideways? Michael, Are you facing? Oprah: Yes, I have already! Michael: capture from the side! Oprah: OK. I just want to see in slow motion. Could you show slow motion? Michael: Well, wait, is like pushing and then there are emerging as a kind of thing. (Dancing stops and off the stage) Michael: Sorry. Oprah: (applauding) Well, I saw him live, I saw him live. Y they took of the kids were doing? Michael: Yeah, because um, I think they are the real dancers. Oprah: Yes, and when you are, for example, when we were here before when we were here before you shoot that ad … Michael: You are supposed to do this with me! (Laughs) Oprah: I do not know what to do! Michael: (laughing) Oprah: You know I do not know how! Michael: (laughing) Oprah: You know what? I mean all the things that were published in newspapers sensational, all who have ever really was when he said he could dance. Now that's the truth! Michael: (laughs) Oprah: When we were here last After shooting the commercial, that were like shots in the middle run and develop dance, dance choreography, which were up all night dancing. Michael: For the Superbowl? Oprah: Yes, yes. Michael: Yeah, well … I'm never satisfied. Even when I see something I've done and people say oh it was great – when I did and made the Motown 25 moonwalk for the first time, I was crying behind the stage later. Oprah: Why? Michael: Because I was happy. Oprah: You wept after Motown ? 25 Michael: After Motown 25, yes. But then I walked to the car had a child, he was like 12, a little Jewish boy, and he said, "oooo, you were amazing, who taught you to dance ever so? "And for the first time I felt I did a good job. Because I know that children do not lie and I felt so highly of him then. Oprah: You wanted to, it felt so good, you probably meant to say (imitating Michael) Hee-hee! Michael: (laughs) Hee-hee! Oprah: I to sing something a capella for me, if you can. Michael: Oh, no! What could I sing? Oprah: Who is, you know what a fantastic little joint as we are here in the theater. Michael: Oh, boy, what could sing? Who is? Oprah: Where did that thing comes hee-hee? Hee-hee. Michael: I just came … I ji, ji (who starts singing) Oprah: Owww! Fabulous! Michael: I mean he wanted me to do. It makes me ashamed. Sorry, I ashamed. Oprah: I love it. Thanks a lot for that. We will come back with more of Michael Jackson live. – That was great (hugs Michael – commercial break) Oprah: One of the reasons why he wanted to see that piece when we went to break, because there was no music videos used to be like you, who used to be just people singing their songs till it came and changed music videos. Did you know that when he first conceived the first that was what you were doing? Michael: Yes, the idea was to something that was a story which had a beginning, middle and end. Oprah: Uh-huh. Michael: So, it felt like a mini movie, that's what I wanted to do. Y that's what we did with Beat It and Thriller and Smooth Criminal and all sorts of things. Oprah: So when you start looking at a job or see a piece of music, are you thinking about how you will – Michael: Sometimes. Yes, that's very true. Oprah: Uh-huh. I wonder how it feels, I'll never know since I can not sing a thing, but what it feels to be on stage with a sea of people, a sea of people. One of the things that impressed me put the peices Together for you, it's all over the world the answer to you is so amazing. I just wanted, for the rest of you in the world who have not seen how people respond to Michael Jackson's take a look. (Cuts to clips of concerts and a multitude of scenes from around the world) Oprah: So when you're standing, and there is a sea of people around you, screaming your name as you were, what it feels like? Michael: love. You just feel so much love, and I feel blessed and honored to be a tool of nature that has been chosen to give them that, what we give. I am honored and happy about it. Oprah: An instrument of nature – that's an interesting way to describe. Michael: Thanks, yes. Oprah: Are you very spiritual? Michael: What sense? Oprah: I mean, have you, why meditate? Do you understand that there is someting bigger than yourself at work here? Michael: I believe in God, absolutely, absolutely, very much. Oprah: Uh-huh. And I think everybody comes into the world for a reason. I think that, um, most of us spend our lives trying to figure out what the purpose of our being here is. What do you think yours is? Michael: My purpose? Oprah: Uh-huh. Michael: Oh boy. I um, to give the best way I can through singing and through dance and music. I mean, I'm committed to my art. I believe that all art has the ultimate objective which is the union between material and the spiritual, human and divine. I think to be the reason for the existence of art. Oprah: Uh-huh. Michael: And um, I feel I was chosen as an instrument to give only the music and love and harmony to the world. For children of all ages, and um, adults and youth. Oprah: You think that by talking now, record of the facts for you, maybe people will be able to pay more attention to his music and not judge you for anything but the kind of music you play? Michael: I hope yes. I love that. Oprah: Well, I hope to come out of this. I am also excited that the world was watching, and why the world is watching, we think was a good time to let the world see the world premiere of Give in to me. (Video of Give in to me shown) Oprah: So, we want to know how it starts on a piece of paper – "Satisfy my desire" – and make it so? Michael: Well, give in to me, I wanted to write another song, you know I was a bit exciting and fun and had a rock edge to her. You know, like when I did Beat It, and Black or White. And Slash, who is a dear friend of mine – we love animals and things like that – I wanted to play guitar and I wanted to play guitar. We met and went to Germany and recorded it in just like 2 hours. We had very little time to shoot. Wanted it to be like a rock concert and that is how it ends – that is the result. Oprah: You talked about the animals. I know everyone is going to do when I leave here, where all animals? I said at the opening, waiting chimpanzees be jumping around the room and I do not see any. Where is bubbles? Michael: (laughs) Well, Animals are everywhere. They are in their habitat. They're all over the ranch. And during the day and leave the game and jump around, have their own playground and area. Oprah: Why, why are so fascinated by animals, do you -? Michael: Because I can find in animals the same thing seems so wonderful children. That purity, that honesty, which is judged not only want to be your friend. I think it's so sweet. Oprah: I did too. We will be back with Michael Jackson Live. (Commercial break) Oprah: We're live at the home of Michael Jackson, in his theater and asked him to NBC for 90 minutes. I do not think it was long enough. Michael: (Laughs) Oprah: I think we've cleared all the rumors, however. No chimpanzees running around the house – Michael: (laughs) Oprah: No oxygen tank at home. Do not know, going to lay off the crotch a little? Michael: (laughs) Ask the music! Oprah: Ask the music will lay off the crotch. Oh, did not reach the opening. Did President Clinton said that one had to be the only person there singing? Michael: That's horrible. That is the stupidest, craziest story I've heard ever. I mean, why just want me and nobody else in the program, just me? That is so stupid to me. I mean it's crazy. That's not is even in my heart. I would never say something like that. Again, someone made up and everybody believed it. It's so fake, it's amazing. Oprah: What want, want more – what you want the world to know that you most? Liz asked you, what do you want to know? Michael: Do you like to be remembered? Oprah: Not to be remembered for – what now? Forget to remember! Michael: Oh well known by now! As was to be an artist, a great artist. Yo, I love what I do and I love people to love what I do and be loved. I just want to be loved wherever you go. Throughout the world, because I love people of all races of my heart with true affection. Oprah: Hmmm. You know, Gene Siskel is a film critic asked me this question once. And I loved the question, so I'll ask. Michael: Yeah? Oprah: You are 34 years of age. What do you know for sure? Michael: Hmmm … What I can be sure? Oprah: What do you know for sure? Michael: Oh boy, I'm still learning. I mean, life is a lesson for me. I can not say I know nothing for sure. I really believe that. Oprah: I can not thank enough to leave us and I wish you all the happiness in the world. I loved being here because I feel like a kid again and one of the things I promised myself same as when the interview was over – live around the world – that would come up that Ferris Wheel. Michael: (laughs) Oprah: And that's exactly what I intend to do. I take off my blue shoes and I'm gonna ride that Ferris Wheel. Michael: (laughing) Oprah: I'll have a good time and I popped a little perhaps, and maybe when it's all taught me how to do the moonwalk, when everyone is looking! Michael: Well, Well, that sounds good! Oprah: Yes! This was fun! Michael: Yeah! Lots of fun! (Michael and Oprah out of the theater and go together to the amusement park)
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